Age 47 Changes - comments

[Nuriho]

@Gnome
Espionage Weight: +40%
Spell success: +15%
100% Accurate Espionage Intel
Cost of Thieves: -50%
No Hospitals
Specific Spellbook: Town Watch, Vermin, Chastity
Inf: 1/1
Def: 0/5
Off: 5/0
Eli: 5/5 $400 4.0nw

A few questions: what does Chastity spell do? Espionage/Saba toge weight? Is stealing horses/gold/towers/peasants and the like sabotage? Does 100% accurate intel affect CBs? CEs? SoM troops out figures? Spy on Sciences? Survey? Infiltrate?

[Fiskinator]

So gnomes are STILL pants, what was the point of a new thief race again?

It seems like t/m's become less important every age because instead of nerfing attackers that are too good the other attacker races get buffed. The power curve is so far away from what it was in utopia's heyday.

[FireBones]

Does +30% gains apply to Massacre?

[Driskle]

Okay, so I knew they werent gonna listen to anyone anyway but this has just got so many unexplained holes in it. Aside from those this one is just confusing me.

Dark elf elite: 6/4 $650 5.0nw
Halfling elite: 6/5 $550 5.0nw

I'm so confused by this, halfing has a better leet that costs less and has the exact same NW, can i get a little light shed on this? It seems that instead of just "boosting" thievery, but in fact killing all forms of magic including the races that represent the choices. Plus a completely useless mystic that you have no choice but to pick if you want MS.

[Dakke]

A few questions: what does Chastity spell do? Espionage/Saba toge weight? Is stealing horses/gold/towers/peasants and the like sabotage? Does 100% accurate intel affect CBs? CEs? SoM troops out figures? Spy on Sciences? Survey? Infiltrate?

For this coming age, Crystal Ball and Crystall Eye will not be randomized, however in future ages we may tentatively add some small randomization. An effort will be made to ensure that Crystal Ball and Crystal Eye are not significantly more difficult to successfully obtain than previously.

I don´t think they should randomize CB:s, wasn´t it randomized in the beginning but removed later due to it not be popular?

And about gnomes... since they apparently are the weakest attacker they need to be better in other areas. Not bad/average in all...
And you shouldn´t require a gnome just to get basic stuff as a SoM at reasonable accuracy - so I hope that SoM still will be at least close to accurate.

[Hallo]

Gnomes are now the Intel Gathering Race.


In the coming ages, I expect the intel to get progressively more random... to the point that people start playing gnome simply because their intel has a 2000% margin of error.

[Kryp2Nite]

Spell success: +30% of elfs and
Spell potency (efficiency & duration): +30% of DE's

Whats the difference of efficiency and success?

Can someone clarify my doubts?

[Driskle]

I think they difference is that efficiency effects how many you kill with FB and such while success rate is just how often you succeed with the spell. So kind of like strength over accuracy type of deal.

[FireBones]

I think they difference is that efficiency effects how many you kill with FB and such while success rate is just how often you succeed with the spell. So kind of like strength over accuracy type of deal.

This is just the new way to talk about the bonuses ELf and Dark Elf have had for a long time. Brian and Sean started using this terminology last age.
Compare the Age 45 races to age 46 races on the wiki and you will see that it is just a change of verbiage.

[Driskle]

i got that, i was just answering his question.

[Kryp2Nite]

alright seems like its DE and Halfings

[FireBones]

Gnomes are now the Intel Gathering Race.


In the coming ages, I expect the intel to get progressively more random... to the point that people start playing gnome simply because their intel has a 2000% margin of error.

I don't think you can deduce that gnomes are "The intel gathering race." I think they are either meant as a good loner race [i.e. if you live in a ghetto kingdom with no organization] and/or a shepherd killer [depending on how chastity works.]

Here is the logic behind why I don't think we can just say gnomes are intended as the "intel-gathering race": While it may be true that SoM/CB, etc. get worse and worse IN THE FUTURE, the devs would surely make balancing changes over time. Currently, according to the devs, the accuracy of CB [at least] will be the same as it was this age, and it is unlikely that SoM is going to be monstrously inaccurate in the coming age [would screw over players in unorganized KD. Surely the devs do not intend every single attack to involve coordination in a KD].

With that in mind, the intel-gathering abilities of gnomes simply cannot be that powerful for the coming age, and there is no reason for the devs to frontload the bad things about gnomes while not really making their one obviously good thing useful this age. For example, let's say that devs said "Hey, in the future spells are going to take more and more runes.." and then, the very next age (before those increases happen) massively nerf DE to counterbalance a change that has not even occurred yet.

Gnomes are set up to be good attackers OOW and good destructive mages [assuming chastity lowers birth rates] in war.

[otokonoko]

Chastity I am assuming is the opposite to love and peace. So instead of doubling the birth rate like Love and peace, it might half the birth rate.

[Hallo]

Speaking from a business standpoint it makes no sense to just come out and shut down a game. It is generating clicks per day and that is valuable to JOLT for advertising dollars. There may be the minimal man hours put into it but I always expect just enough to keep it going. Maybe someday it will be able to demand the team it deserves. There are no other games like it.

From a Business Standpoint, this game is a Sunk Cost. They've invested time and money into it, yet have failed to gain any benefits from it (and such benefits are not guaranteed)
Also, from a Business Standpoint, this game's revenue is less than its fixed costs... now, one could argue that the game isn't operating at maximum capacity and thus fixed costs are higher... but that only means either there isn't a big enough market for this type of game, or few people know of the game and money would have to be spent promoting it.

Now, with more people comes the need for a more powerful server, which in turn... increases fixed costs. And the need for marketing to "expand the player-base" is, in turn, another fixed cost. Now, we can go chasing this, get exceedingly higher revenues, yet never obtain a profit.


So, in order to obtain a profit, they need to increase their opportunities of obtaining revenue... such as... selling the Halfling Race.



See, Jolt doesn't gain money from Utopia. It's free to play... but Utopia generates a Market, and it is to this Market that they sell their products. Now, if they crack down on X-Logging we should see an increase in the number of people buying sitting credits. If they crack down on Farms, and then sell the "rights" to play two accounts... we should see an increase in the number of people buying those rights. They control the Market by influencing it with their "tools"... but unless they offer more products to their market, it cannot sustain itself.

[NoseBlood]

i cant * belive they dident change dorf at all. Are you guys blind or are you just damn clueless. Halflings looks nice tho, gj on that.
Mystic need's 'something', MS dont cut it, sense it can be MV'd before doing dmg. I dont like that Avians & Orc both got + gains. Its just wierd, Orcs need a new boost. And the 5 def spec back. Server will be 95% Sages, and a few Halflings/Rogues. I can feel the lameness already.