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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    exactly our thought when we pushed it ;)
    Except for some stupid reason, you think we didn't want you to push it, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHaran View Post
    Except for some stupid reason, you think we didn't want you to push it, lol.
    Well, it didn't really seem that way during the war, but then again we seem to have a fundamentaly different understanding what wars are about. =)

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    1) We do not intentionally steal from active hostiles (we take SN to check)
    2) Blame mechanics for all being in our advantage is kinda lame when you are that much bigger
    3) Not be able to do anything without interfering in a real war is sad
    4) Blaming devos is funny, but go to suggestion thread if you wanna see things changed
    Last edited by Red; 11-04-2012 at 01:56. Reason: added 'intentionally'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    1) We do not intentionally steal from active hostiles (we take SN to check)
    2) Blame mechanics for all being in our advantage is kinda lame when you are that much bigger
    3) Not be able to do anything without interfering in a real war is sad
    4) Blaming devos is funny, but go to suggestion thread if you wanna see things changed
    Your lame attempt to refute is parallel to your actions.

    No one blamed the game mechanics, but it is as it is. No one told us to be that much bigger, but no one told you to be that much smaller. See the beauty of that perspective-based arguement? True say, we don't have to interfere strictly in war but how else would it hurt more and where is the fun for me without doing so? You have so much fun playing the "I don't give a ****" style, I believe others have the right to do so too, correct?

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    I don't give a bunch of asterisks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    I don't give a bunch of asterisks?
    Be creative with it. You seem like the witty type to think of the words. You don't seem to have a problem with it here provoking others.

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    Wow, getting to the TL;DR size... let's stop this topic with a final post because these arguments are getting very circular. We will steal your monies honourably and you will raze us honourably, I think everyone gets it. This is the only thing that matters:

    Quote Originally Posted by MorbidAngel View Post
    If the issue isn't dealt with immediately, next age we will have 10+ kingdoms doing the same thing instead of two, simply because others got away with it.
    It doesn't matter your response, the idea is already planted as Elurin pointed out in post before:

    Quote Originally Posted by Elurin View Post
    Another option is ofc for the mentioned kd's to actually play the game everyone else do - by not keeping more gc around than they can defend. Keeping 20-30 mil, even with 3 tpa and CS, is a great deal to rob. I do see the frustration this reset in mentality causes as kd's cling to old strats demanding such huge cash reserves to compete.
    [...]It's rather that if the rest of the server sees how beneficial it is for a kd to rob the top, their wanted privilege of keeping endless gc stores will no longer work. 1 or 2 kd's can be GB'd, not 10 or 100. In the face of this change in balance, where these kd's would actually have to rethink their regular way of winning, the preferred option is ofc to maintain status quo with a show of power. But guys, be honest about it instead of trying to take some morale standpoint here.
    No matter if Ghetto Catz gets "policed" this age, we will be doing roughly the same thing next age -- hopefully as top 30 and not top 15 though because it's boring. "We Steal Money From People Who Have It" (WSMFPWHI joke alliance) is born out of this idea that the top 50 should not be satisfied with top KDs whoring 20 mil on provs for pumping, they should steal it and change game balance for the better. Let's not rely on the developers to even up the "code".

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    Agreed with everythig coboss says. You have the right to steal as it's fun and productive to your goals. We have the right to have fun and raze/bounce/double hostile/gb because we can and the "code" provides that as the only solution for both ends of the spectrum.

    /close thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbidAngel View Post
    No-FW rule was added not so long ago. I do wonder how admins will behave towards such cfs, as kd bashing is really bad for the game.
    Bishop said that such cfs in war would be considered a FW and would be actioned upon.
    Retired at one time but no longer retired.

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    ... lame
    Last edited by Evillone; 11-04-2012 at 03:46.

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    I re-read my first post and fail to see how it's mocking for you guys still baka :/ Anyway, it was not intended to mock anyone but Simians and the one who sent those msg's. Leaving 5 minute for an offline monarch before a into-war raze is initiated is ridiculous. It is unfortunate that any other top kd feel mocked by the post.

    As for the GB and losing players, I do not think anyone will quit as you say flogger, we have a pretty cool atmosphere, but maybe they will. I never wanted the GB, but it was inevitable from Simians side for no good reason - as fwordz asked many times no one has yet shown a single op into an active hostile of theirs nor out of an active hostile from our side. Thus, by e.g. baka's own argumentation, there is no reasoning behind the decision to raze us which calls for the public mocking as we have no real way of defending ourselves vs a kd razing into our war.

    I will always honor a real hostile, as I said to many monarchs this age, but I will not honor requests such as "We got a notice and will be hit in 48 hours". Not sure if this is what you mean baka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elurin View Post
    I will always honor a real hostile, as I said to many monarchs this age, but I will not honor requests such as "We got a notice and will be hit in 48 hours". Not sure if this is what you mean baka.
    No this is not what I mean. We were 2 days in to a retal war with Fury and still had your guys robbing our gc that we had stocked. You were asked on IRC by Meeni to stop, said 'okay' but then proceeded to continue.

    We do not have news of this as it has long gone from our news record. Nor is there a need for me to make it up because frankly, I'll rather not have to deal with something like this and actually mind my own business but you guys failed to mind your owns and instead decided to make it difficult on our part. So why wouldn't I want to return the favor when I get the opportunity?

    We had a clear gc advantage over Fury going as we had been preparing for such a conflict while they were still in war with OS. But after your constant robbing in to our active retal war, we actually ended up with insufficient gc to sustain ourselves. I didn't know your kd was in to 'policing' others.

    Realize all this time I never once mentioned or complained about you guys robbing us the last few days. It was never even a concern for us.

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    [07:49] <Meeni> elurin cf me please... in x:x (bio), old evo mates gotta stick together and youre stealing all our gc :(
    09[20:40] <Elurin-away> Meeni :(
    09[21:52] <Elurin> told those online now to chill with that, but man why do you keep 5 mil gc around on low tpa avians, ofc they gonna be stolen.. if not by us by someone else
    [07:33] <Meeni> thanks.. we'll deal haha we need to stock the gold for protection against the absies just gotta find that sweet spot where it doesn't get stolen. 3 tpa it is i guess :P

    For the record, that's the only convo I've had with Meeni this age unless in a chan. I wasn't informed of an active hostile from what I can tell at a quick glance? The reason I actually care is that even though I'm fine with all this hatin on my kd from top, I think it's unfair to say we interfere in active hostiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elurin View Post
    [07:49] <Meeni> elurin cf me please... in x:x (bio), old evo mates gotta stick together and youre stealing all our gc :(
    09[20:40] <Elurin-away> Meeni :(
    09[21:52] <Elurin> told those online now to chill with that, but man why do you keep 5 mil gc around on low tpa avians, ofc they gonna be stolen.. if not by us by someone else
    [07:33] <Meeni> thanks.. we'll deal haha we need to stock the gold for protection against the absies just gotta find that sweet spot where it doesn't get stolen. 3 tpa it is i guess :P

    For the record, that's the only convo I've had with Meeni this age unless in a chan. I wasn't informed of an active hostile from what I can tell at a quick glance? The reason I actually care is that even though I'm fine with all this hatin on my kd from top, I think it's unfair to say we interfere in active hostiles.
    This conversation was prior to the fight with Rage. You actually stopped that one time we had asked. Not the second time around when we were actually retal warring Fury.

    Deny it all you want, but I have no interest in finding an excuse to suddenly point at a KD and make enemies of - I don't even know your kd much a part from the fact that my good friend GuanYuCwk used to play in it. There's also no need to point at your kd if it wasn't for the fact that you guys wouldn't stop after being asked to when the kd is in hostile.

    Lots of KD's have stolen from us all age; TrollFags, Faery Circle, Bodega of Lotus etc. But they know when to stop. Not you guys.

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    17 pages, really? So many kids *****ing and moaning these days, thats why Dreams is probably my favorite top kd of the last few years or so in Utopia. I remember these fools got screwed so bad (a million times worse than some monies being stolen by a ghetto) but they still ended up crowning, without *****ing at all. People even made threads about it in the forums, and Dreams did not say a word about it in them.

    Sure they mightve *****ed a little bit in private, but thats different.

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