Quote Originally Posted by AMP View Post
Regarding the status of the awar when Pandas joined, well Emeriti was pretty much untouched and so were most of the kds in their side, so if thats a clean up phase, we do have very different perceptions of the game.
You say this then you say on the same page that there was a week you believe and then a few days of pressure to accept cf... You counter your own points within posts of each other. Either they were untouched or it was weeks and a few days after....

Quote Originally Posted by AMP View Post
Pandas did have a cf deal with Crazies, who told Pandas that they didn't want to be at the top or were interested in it and they also told us they would stay out.

After the awar conflict started, suddenly Meep kd (monarch prov) starts attacking another kd of their own side, all pretty normal these days for some I guess...

Pandas then decided to wave Meep as we had no deal with them and were limited in targets, seeing they were just bouncing provs and were already hitting out of the conflict. We did a deal with Meep and Meep alone, even after threats from abs side and a lot of complaints from CJ, even hinting he would join ABS side.

After sometime (a week I believe), after knowing new info, after talking with a lot of people, after other friendly kds got involved, after days of pressures to accept CF with all ABS side or we could get into trouble, we took a stance and joined in.

We spent most hits just bouncing banks and razing, land hits were a minority, so unless people complaining have a different strategic logic, I would consider this an awful way to grow and gain any sort of advantage over CJ.

While one kd was growing freely, waving down any kd with NOONE to threat them at the top, whoring their provs with absurd def in a normal situation, the other was heavily involved in a conflict, getting severely opped and hit by a few kds, mostly from Emeriti.

If this is the best way for the second kd to gain any sort of advantage, I have really been playing this game in a wrong way.

It seems one kd did gain a lot from this situation and that kd was not Pandas.
Actually the kd randoming was Expendables, CJ was pumping and exploring while only randoming his chained provs from the wsk war. He had humans so couldn't go to a whore cap that Expendables orcs were able to. So yeah you gained more acres than him during it. You have been playing this game wrong if your intent was to play clean; you're not.