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Originally Posted by KuhaN
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Not mad brah having a good laugh right now see!Quote:
Originally Posted by KuhaN
To the first part, no no one did. It was the best race by a wide margin, and had anyone thought of it they would have immediately demanded their core run it, since it was so overpowered we were double the size of the server after 2 weeks (which had never come close to happenning before)Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
To the second part, From every age I played between ages 4 (after the shuffle) until I retired initially in age 13, yes.
Agreed, but after that, it's academic. It was a misplay by Pulse (although I recall JSS saying something like it was a calculated risk when we did the diplo, but who knows), but after that, it was pretty clear what was gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
idk, I was in cyprus getting drunk every day iirc. seemed better to be sci pumping than trying to do things.
we finished the sci pump and had a lot of fun smashing some people, we weren't exactly playing for acres back then.
For example, evillone, if you thought of the rotating halfling strategy I would be correct, since you are a nobody.
This thread is awesome, jus sayin'.
flogger your so cute when you try and be insulting =). Im not calming to be a "somebody" just pointing out that you are not near the person you claim to be...
Now tell me more! did you invent chaining and banking as well?
well he was first person over 20k acres.
where is Kuhan with a thumbs up when you need him.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
What the hell is going on? Where's the damn farm war?
Never fear, KuhaN is always near!Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
where is your handler to put you back in your box?Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
your opinions might be yours and yours alone but they're still stupid and wrong.
You're pointing it out but wrong, however. Your argument is basically that I didn't "come up with a strategy" despite no one else in the top 100 kingdoms running more than 2 or 3 halflings, whereas my kingdom ran over 20, and saying I didn't come up with it because there were 3 ghetto provinces that did the same thing. That's easily the stupidest argument ever made on a board filled with stupid arguments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
No, I was the main proponent against banking since its bad for the game, sounds like twelve years later the devs finally agree with me
I am impressed by Evillone's memory that he can tell every halfer during a certain age ran a certain things is quite the feat. Cause I doubt someone like Evillone would just go and assume things!
Korp it was pretty much all the race had going for em that age...
Flogger at least we can agree on a few things, banks are lame. ;)
I willing to acknowledge the fact that your kingdom did in fact run the halfer building swap to great successes however that dose not mean you came up with the strat. It just means you where ballsy enough to try it on a kingdom wide level which i give you kudos for. The fact that it was widely and openly discussed on the forums before the age even started and pretty much the only and obvious way to run halfers that age is the reason i wouldn't give you credit for inventing it.
Snow, ignorance and insults do not make a compelling argument for anything, I may be an idiot but that doesn't mean I'm wrong
haha, good stuff.
hey octobrev, did you pick up halo 4?
So you are saying that the hands down 100% best strategy was widely and commonly discussed amongst all the players and yet only 1 kingdom in the top 100 kingdoms used it? This is impossible. I only discovered it about 20 hours before the age started (had it been discussed I would have discovered it sooner) and I spent about 6 hours convincing my co-monarch that it was the way to go and then rushed to get my kingdom to all pick the race setup at the last minute (we had no IRC). I didn't discover it by reading it somewhere, I didn't discover it by talking to someone else, I came up with it on my own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
My co-monarch was one of the strongest players in the game (EEKthedog) and the fact that it took me hours to convince him and the fact that I didn't see it sooner means it was by no means an obvious strategy. Amongst the top kingdoms halfling was widely dismissed as one of the worst races before the age started that age.
From my recollection there were about 3 ghetto provinces who did the same thing, likely after seeing us do it to such success.
The final argument is that you will not find a single knowledgable person who played back in those times that wouldn't say "rotating halfer, yeah flogger came up with that" if asked. You are the only person who has this opinion.
Whatever dude =) I'm sure Edison didn't think he stole the light bulb either. Your a good Player and have a sound strategic mind i just don't get why you feel like you gotta toot your own horn and take credit for things people KNOW you didn't come up with. Why not just take credit for the things you did or better yet KNOW how good you are and have some confidence in that then you won't find the need to brag at all. Humility with great success says far more about a person than they could ever say about themselves.
hey silent_killer, did you pick up utopia?
That's easy to say now, isn't it? Didn't you have an agreement that prevented you from exploring them? And if you did you could be noticed? There was a strong possibility you would have doubled up sooner or later (by that time there was quite a bit of info on explore cost already). Prior to the fight with sword though, you had little choice but to explore your pool on faeries as your humans would never be safe against the core from sword.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Lol, if you post at least have the balls and dignity to speak the truth. Just because you've been quiet for a while, it doesn't mean everyone forgets what you posted before that. Neither do people forget how you continuously brag on irc about how good you are or how bad others are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Edison knew exactly what he was, he was always a far better marketing/ad man than a scientist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
god tier troll.Quote:
[00:44] <Proteus> last age your leader flogger gave rage a free wave
[00:45] <Proteus> because he couldnt war us without farming out
[00:45] <Proteus> we didnt make a single post about that
[00:45] <Proteus> look at what octo and gegorth are sayin
[00:45] <JohnSnowstorm> well, yes you did
[00:45] <JohnSnowstorm> I remember reading you gloating over eating bio banks
[00:45] <Proteus> yea because baka is a d*ck
[00:45] <JohnSnowstorm> oh ok, its ok if baka is a d*ck
[00:45] <Proteus> and trash talks a kingdom that he has never managed to beat and always loses to us
You seem to don't know flogger very well even if you played with him. You also don't seem to have played then since you refer to HoDF as "hodif". You also seem to be clueless by thinking anyone can still 'copy' HoDF's strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
Less talk, more war.
Prot, i miss spell a lot of stuff HoDF isn't one that's caught by my spell check, need a utopia update for spellings and abbreviations i guess. Also your right you wouldn't be able to use raze attacks to gain honor and stay at a small size and you wouldn't get any benefits past prince (thus the reason i suggested they would only go to prince). however you could use intra kingdom raze to keep the provinces small (people do this already and im sure if you asked any of them where they got the idea they would say HoDF). Prince honor with a WH bonus for a bank (who will mostly see provinces in its range with far less honor) is still quite overpowering endless you think that the extra time other banks would have to pump science at a larger size would offset the +33% pop space the honor would gain you. While that strat isn't EXACTLY the same as HoDF's its close enough to be "based on it" and thus the reason i would give credit to HoDF for it. Are you implying because you have to use a different attack type and have your kingdom raze you in order to achieve the exact same thing HoDF did (although on a lesser scale) makes it a different strat all together? what is it that i did not understand there?
You dont seem to realize the magnitude of bonuses HoDF had. She had over 1k ppa if i remember corectly and quadriple fame efects w/o hard cap.
She was strongest prov on server even at very small acres. Any competitive KD who would farm out wh prince for bank would just have it razekilled immidiatelly since those petit bonuses wouldnt keep province safe from others.
Thats just the most obvious ... theres like hundread reasons your scenqrio isnt plausible.
back to topic ... can this fight start allrdy so this hype finally dies ...
yeah... war already.
Haha, EEK!Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Getting a prince war hero now would require a totally different strategy than HoDF, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
What you display there, is an idea. You have an idea of a prince war hero cow, but how are you going to get there? You want to call dibs on the strategy now because you mention "intra raze to stay small" and "farm honor in war"? Where is the rest? How are you going to get large? How are you going to counter the mechanic changes for the explore pool and explore cost? How do you prevent being razekilled before you get shot up?
I bet we'll see you brag on the forums here if someone magically gets a prince war hero cow up claiming it was your strategy ;p
You don't grasp the difference between a concept and executing a strategy.
Intra razing will remove honor.
So you dont know you just assume, isnt that bad presenting things like facts when you dont know. Are you that Earth fellow? Cause he stopped and suddenly someone elses shows up trying to shoot down Flogger?Quote:
Korp it was pretty much all the race had going for em that age...
Bishop really I was not aware of this but it's awesome. Is that new?
Prot did you even read my posts. I used an example of a strat that would clearly have its bases routed in the HoDF strat and then said Flogger was going to run it in his kingdom and take full credit for coming up with the strat. I was being sarcastic, I don't actually expect sword to do this (except for taking credit for strays he didn't invent that I would believe) infact with all the new obsticals I don't expect anyone to do it. I wasn't trying to "call dibs" on a strat or even form a fully detailed strat. I was merely implying that flogger claiming to have invented home flopping was simalar to my example. You should try comprehending things that you read before you respond to them lol.
I didn't assume anything korp, I just remember the age. Halfers sucked numbers wise, which flogger said himself. The only thing they had going for them was the land swap ability, which turned out to be vastly overpowered. The larger majority of the server thought that the land swaping wouldn't be nearly powerful enough to make up for thier ****ty numbers and so they didn't run them or atleast not in large numbers. Pretty much the only reason to run a halfer that age was to attempt the land swap strat, I'm sure there was some nubs that played halfer not intending to swap (like the guy running the mystic orc this age, see that's an example of some one running a race outside the optimal way to play it) but if you had skills and played halfer the land swap was the reason. I can remember tons of pre age discussion on the subject and that was my main point, if everyone and there mom could see the strat it dosnt really have an inventor it was just the obvious strat for that race (it just happend to be more effective than people expected) claiming you invented it is like claiming that you invented the " attacker" strat for orcs or the "turtle t/m" strat for faerys.
Oooh. I think I saw something twitch.
You just dont get it, do you? :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
Funny Prot I was thinking the same thing about you after your first responce to me, you have just confirmed my suspicions.
nvm me =)
concept/idea isn't the same as a worked & executed out strategyQuote:
Originally Posted by Evillone
Evilone is just mad he was kicked/razekilled from Pulse one time :p