Havoc vs AMA Round 2

[JustinSane]

I would never steal acres from a kd by hitting into their war. Why would I be jealous that you did so? I would have been jealous if it was just PewPew having a fair 1v1 war that led to them generating war acres, of course you took that away from them.

And who exactly were they going to double hostile you with? Up to this age I have only been affiliated with non-abs kd's, just in the past they've normally not taken part or condoned things this shady, atleast without their being a gb or mass deletions.

edit: I think the fact that you think the only issue is that you "beat" others to the acres says it all.

This is off topic, so in respect of the thread I will stay short.

I never suggested that the only issue was that we beat others to acres. I suggested that is the main reason for your tears: had the acres been helpful to your cause, you would've been singing a different tune. As for which kingdom, any one willing to give us such relations I would have to assume given that they explicitly told us we could not expect "fair treatment" from them. What do you expect us to do in that situation? Sit there and wait until a kingdom infamous for deal breaking and foul play decide to screw us over even worse? No. We did what any sensible kingdom would do in that situation: in lack of alliance back-up, we took matters in to our own hands. Most likely, it will cost us the age, but with such threats hanging over your head, there is no shot at crowning anyway.

But, don't worry. Should there be the slightest threat of SWEA crowning, I am sure that Absalom will write up a new precedent that justifies their gang banging: after all, Mansoor was a naughty boy a near-decade ago. With ASF back, I am sure you can spin that to your needs.

P.S. Based on Cody's own logs, we could've gotten at least 10k acres free. Instead, we got just short of 15k at the cost of increasing the risk of EoA GB (whether Debauchery or the rest) and not being able to either war or pump until matters with Debauchery are resolved. Are you really going to sit there and pretend that we got a great deal out of this? Get real. Just disband already or stop crying.