Quote Originally Posted by TheRock View Post
I've known your monarch for a long time, we had a pretty open dialogue the entire war. You're completely incorrect about the free wave - we wanted a war and expected you to give one. Logs are being included to give some more evidence, although half were lost to Mibbit.
So you expected us to drop you into declaration range :) Then I revoke my comment about the free acres.

Quote Originally Posted by TheRock View Post
You guys set three separate declare dates, and then on the third one, were forced to spend half a wave max gaining just to get us into range (per Maximouse). I'm sure you had pre-war goals, but you also got screwed around by the declare range. Given this, I disagree with your first paragraph - it would have gone to war earlier, since you would have used your earlier declare date. It wouldn't have been an instant declare, but it would have been earlier.
It's funny that you mention it, since we had forgot about the relative nw part until some 20 hours before we sat our declaration date and the discussions was more about the question whether we would create a dual button once at max hostile or not...

...and you gave us a really fun week with your wave, and it was a nice war so I don't want to ruin whatever relations and good air it gave both our kids...

...however, if Maximouse told you that he had 3 different declaration dates then probably he had even though he never mentioned it to his council.

Quote Originally Posted by TheRock View Post
My wave and retals were actually not used as a standard. I'm not sure where you got that idea - I never really mentioned my kingdom in this thread, except in hypotheticals. Given this, I disagree with your second paragraph. When asked for examples, I've given the same three throughout this thread: Sanctuary vs Snakes, HOH vs Psych Ward, Rage vs Insolence. Mercy is not mentioned.

I'm actually not angry about our war, or even angry in general. I've actually left the Mercy vs Monument conflict out of this entire discussion. I'm not sure why you think I'd be mad about it, it was a fun war. I ignore Sheister because he does not respond to statements or take the time to read things that were written. I'm more than happy to engage almost anyone in a conversation, but a dialogue is a two way street. I don't see any need to spend time repeating my points to people who refuse to read them.
And I only picked up on the "I'll give you two more kingdoms it didn't work for - Mercy vs Monument, when we had them just under 75% of our NW. Without our bank, the kingdoms were the same size. They wanted a war, we wanted a war, we both had to deal with things to make sure we could have the war we wanted." part since it's a matter where the system worked as intended regardless of what we think of it :S You had a bank, or rather still have, which inflates your kd nw and that gives you both advantages, disadvantages and... funny problems.

However, that last part can be addressed by returning to the former nw-range for the smaller part in the conflict, allowing them the "grace" to still declare even though the enemy kingdom is at most 200% their own kd nw size while retaining the protection the 75% limit downwards gives smaller kingdoms.